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Hi All,
For those of you who want to shop at Future Shop, it is important for you to know what is the reason this company chooses to ditch an honest customer. Here are some of the reasons for that.
Future Shop model of operation is based on deceiving the customer. They don’t have a sustainable value preposition, (reason to exist) other than the fact that they have pushy sales model.
The company has been bought out by Best Buy who would rather see its own name propagating then a local brand name such as Future Shop which only exists in Canada.
Best Buy has non-commissioned sales people and they are able to sell as much stuff as Future Shop if not more. This puts real pressure on Future Shop management to prove its existence and justify commissions.
If Future Shop drops commissions, they will offer nothing different from Best Buy. Which means it loses its existence.
Now a word about commissions:
I get laughs when I see the employees of the company trying to defend Future Shop and themselves. I will be honest and clear: It is not the salespeople who are at fault. They are only doing what works best for them. If you are a smart salesperson, why wouldn’t you look after yourself.

But it is the company’s compensation model which helps everyone except the customer. Let me give you an example.

Buying a Laptop:

If you sell a laptop, the average commission on the laptop is $5-$15.
If you are a serious salesperson, you will be lucky to sell 5-7 laptops in a day depending on the store.

This means you would make $50 per day on average. Obviously this does not fill your wallet. Now let us start building on the add-ons and see what happens

Warranty: PSP, PRP pays you 12% commission. A laptops warranty is uptop 40% of the purchase price. Lets say it is $300. You have now made an additional $36 to bring your commission on the sale at $36+10 (avg) =$46. That sounds better. But wait, since the customer is buying why not go for more.  This is just the beginning.

Why don’t you sell the setup (which is truly setting the customer up)
The setup costs $150 (with software). That pays you 15% = $20

Now you are at $66.

What about the bag: A $50 bag will pay you $5. So now you are at $71. What about mouse $5. At this point the customer starts to give up.

After all the $800 laptop has now grown to $2000.

So now you made approx. $80 from the sale.

Obviously, why would we blame the salesperson. I think he did a fantastic job. But what did the customer gain.

Let’s see:

1. Warranty: The futureshop’s warranty is smartly designed to confuse and dupe the customer. I will explain all salient features with the context of the laptop sale.

1. Performance guarantee: This is nothing but a piece of shit statement: (Performance guarantee ensures that the product will perform according to the manufacturer’s specifications). Doesn’t the manufacturer meet his own specifications. Ridiculous counter cyclical argument to confuse the customer. BTW, I had broken my keyboard and called up LG laptop. They paid for both way shipping and replaced keyboard within a week, no questions asked. Try that with Future Shop.

2. Replacement Guarantee: This guarantee is only meant to help 2 kind of people
a) Those who are extremely unlucky
b) Those who are clever at fooling the company and paying it back in the same coin.

For example,
The terms and condition of the replacement guarantee state that the laptop would have to have 4 major repairs in order to be considered for replacement.
Here is the problem with this.
a) 4 major repairs: Adapter replacement for example is not a repair. It is upto the company to decide whether it is a major repair.
b) Each time you bring for repair, average repair time is 15 days. So you are without the laptop for
Atleast 2 months in the warranty period before you get a replacement.
Despite such heavy odds in the company’s favour, here’s what happens when you get the replacement
a) Your warranty is now no longer valid. If you bought a 3 year warranty and the replacement happened in 13 months. You lost the remaining 2 years. Considering you already had a 1 year manufacturer warranty, you have in-effect paid $300 to exchange the replacement.
b) Future Shop will again sell you the new warranty on the replaced laptop, which means you shell out another $300 which means you effectively paid $600 to replace your laptop
c) The defective laptop is a property of Future Shop, which they will use for parts or sell it after repair at discount price which could easily fetch them $400-$600. You could have yourself sold the parts on ebay and earned $200. Since you lost that opportunity. You have effectively paid
$800 for the replacement laptop.
d) The replacement laptop will always be cheaper than the original price so you may end up with a $500 laptop at time of replacement. In a best case scenario, the company cannot offer you more than $800 which was your original price.
Based on the above points, if you were the lucky one to have beaten the odds (1 in 100 approx) and qualified for a replacement laptop, you have still paid $800 for a $500 laptop.
The Dilemma: The salesperson makes money by selling you the warranty. The manager makes money by saving on the expenses, which means denying or avoiding the costs of repair/replacement.
When you as a customer are facing such hawks, you are almost always a loser. It is better to keep the money in your pocket and use it to shell out when you need to.

3. Repairs: More than 60% of laptop or computer repairs are software related, and even if they are not, the technicians like to believe they are. When you take your computer for service. If the problem is not obvious (CD burner not working) they will guess it as a Operating system problem.
Instead of telling you to restore the computer yourself, they will tell you that the system needs to be restored and is not covered under warranty (Surprised!). Most customers end up shelling $80 for the restore even if they had the warranty.

Setup: The notorious Future Shop setup is also similarly heavily priced.
The Salesperson will pitch it to you as if it take 4 hours to complete the setup. What he/she doesn’t tell you is that the technicians are doing 20 different things at the same time and not sitting on your computer for 4 hours. They are effectively only spending max. 20 minutes on your laptop. At $100 per hour for setup. They are effectively charging you $400 per hour for the labour. Not bad for a half-qualified technician who follows the default commands which you could have done yourself. (Sometimes the company uses Co-op students to do the setup, training at your expense)

Also, the setup is non-refundable. So if you decided to return the laptop next day, you will now lose $100 because that is the labour fee.

I think I may be running out of space. If you like my inputs, please comment and I will add more.

9 Responses to “The Problem with Future Shop”

Post all you want :)

Okay so here’s some more:

Problem with their Sales Model: Future Shop and Best Buy both choose to offer the lowest prices to the customers. This means that they end up slashing all the prices on the core products like TV, Laptop, Computer Camera etc.

This is good for the customers but here is the problem:

Big retailers also have bigger expenses. How do they extract that profit. Since they cannot do it from the core product, they do it from the add-ons.

That is why you will not see any of their high-margin products/services advertised in their flyers. They want to attract you to the store with the low margin core products and then coerce you into buying the extra add-ons.

What is ironic is that the add-ons are so inflated during sale and so deflated during service.

For example: Warranty or PSP is pitched as if your product would be a nightmare if you did not buy the PSP wheras when you bring the product for repair, the PSP itself becomes a cause for your nightmares.

Most products are sent to the manufacturer during first year, (Contrary to the sales pitch you received). Repairs could take upto 60 days. If the product was not fixed, they could send it again for another 60 days and so on. If you only had manufacturer’s warranty, you would have sorted the matter much easier if you called directly.

Another example: Accessories: The bag, extra battery, the cables, the remotes are all pitched as essentials for your product.

On average the products original price is inflated by 30%.

The residual value of these accessories is almost zero. Try selling a USB cable which you bought for $30. I bet you won’t get a dollar for it. Because I can buy a new one from dollar store.

If your new or replaced product is not compatible with your old accessories, that is none of Future Shop’s concern. That is your problem.

So the $1000 TV which you proudly paid $2500 dollars with all the related add-ons will fetch you nothing even if you had the warranty.

The sales people will make commission on all these accessories and services and that is why they push it on you. Resist the temptation and the pitch. Take a note of all the things they tried to sell. Come home and buy them from the internet. You would save a ton of money.

There is an old saying, “If the horse falls in love with the grass, it would have nothing to eat”. So the Sales people and Future Shop cannot be friends of their customers. They want to eat you and your money.

If you are wise, keep it to yourself and spend it where you get the best value.

You’re an idiot.
All commission based stores are the same, someone in the whole scheme of things has to make money. We price beat every single product, so mark up has nothing to do with anything. And if you’re so pro Best Buy, how do you feel about how much more money Best Buy makes since it doesn’t have to pay it’s employees commission? You were obviously canned and now you’re just ranting to make yourself feel better.

Wow!

So you mean by calling me an idiot you have solved all problems for Future Shop.

A shitty company like Fshop does not have the guts to can me. I ruled when I worked for it and I quit when I saw that I was not being honest to myself and the customers because that is the only way to make money.

There is no-one trying to tell you that a company should not make money. But your own argument proves that the commission model in general for electronics and Future Shop in particular is a failure.

Despite all the duping of customers, the company is incurring higher costs and lesser revenue than Best Buy.

I don’t like Best Buy any more or less than Future Shop.

But if I am an honest customer why should I go to Future Shop.

Of course, if I know how to haggle Future Shop would be a better choice.

Pretty accurate and good comment.
I didn’t read the whole thing but one thing I do want to say is that the company now changed it from “4 major repairs” to “any 4 repairs” for the replacement guarantee.

As with anything, there is a smart and dumb way to shop. If you walk into a futureshop (Or ANY sales based store for that matter) and just say yes to everything the salesperson offers you then yes you will get ripped off. If you are smart and research what you want (including warranty, which even consumer reports recommends on laptops) then you can be in charge and pick what you want and possibly haggle down the price.

first off…they do not sell broken laptops… you just made that fact up…they are actually sent to nexicore (their repair depot) because after the insurance company pays for replacement the defective is no longer property of future shop either… do not make up things and call them facts when they are speculations.

and why shouldnt the sales people make decent money? future shop offers connect pro services (setup) because if they didnt they would lose probably 30% of their computer sales because peopl have no idea how to get vista running properly…if you know how sure its easy but if not you may as well go try to repair a broken transmission because your not going to do it right,

Ho Hum, there will always be disgruntled employees in any corporation, I feel that some of your comments are valid and anything that educates the consumer is valuable but make sure that you don’t embelish things to make it sound better.

Now with regard to the FS warranty, I purchased the warranty on my 50″ rear screen 3 years ago and now with 2 years left, the TV is too expensive to repair so they are now replacing it with a new one.

Sony no longer makes the 50″ rear screen so it is being replaced by a 52″ LCD. and yes I bought a new warranty for it so using your theory I have paid approx. $600, $350 for the new and say approx. $184 left from the last warranty, so what did I get for that, a new upgraded TV $2600 , free delivery and removal of the old TV, am I happy with that “you bet” and if I am lucky this on will crap out before the 4 year term and I will get a new TV for about the same price $600.

Now I don’t know about you but that makes me a happy FS customer and the sales assoc. who has been there 17yrs gets my business again.

I work as a ConnectPro technician there and I want to make some things clear:

The warranty is not covering software, and that’s legal, since eveyone can screw things up. BUT, what they could of made is to add 15-25 software fixes for free, backup included.
We charge $100 for OS reinstall, and 80 for backup. It breaks my heart to tell these to customers with or without PSP. Local shop can do that, less than a hundred bucks. I personally think PSP isn’t a great deal at that price, but what customers are sucked in, is by the salespeople. There’s one girl there, that literally lies by telling them that we’ll fix things for free for anything, and get that done in less than a day.

First off, it’s at least 24-48 hours before we take it in, and most of times, we charge for OS reinstall + backup. Now, I have a trade school leaving, and In my rule of thumbs, I’d look in the OS to find out what’s wrong before telling that.

Also, I had made a mistake because of 2 things:

1) I worked at Microage, a depot Tech…best thing I wanted…12/80 an hour plus 37 cents a km…no, I ruined that.
2)They can’t pay me right…yeah, that’s right. Not even an emplyee! I had a rough time to get my password fixed to put in my hours, but then, after all that, I had “excessive” shifts that couldn’t be brought in. I was told that I wouldn’t get paid at all. I blew red that day, to find out my supervisor fixed everything the next day.

Future shop is okay, but without the extra crap. That wireless mouse and bag, well, the traveling kit it good, for someone who travels a lot, but not for home use.

I’m still regretting the move for job swap…only to save time travel.

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